Return to the Repair Cafe with Jackie Carter

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It is unsustainable for the earth for us to continue throwing

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things away when there are alternatives.

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What is repair cafe and how can you start one?

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Repair cafe inspired this podcast episode with guest Jackie Carter.

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Have you ever heard of repair cafe repair cafe began in 2009

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in Amsterdam by Martine Postma.

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And I don't know how to pronounce her name, but she started it

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because she wanted to find a way to be more sustainable.

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Repair cafe went global.

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Jackie Carter of Moscow, Idaho opened up the first repair

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cafe for the state of Idaho.

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And there are ways that you can open up a cafe.

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And I know that this episode will inspire you to want to do so.

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Jackie Carter will share ways on just how you can do that.

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We're sitting here in the beautiful Moscow library.

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And this is Jackie Carter.

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Hi.

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Hi Jackie.

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It's so exciting.

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And so first off, let's kind of go backwards before we get to Repair

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Cafe and find out why you became interested in a, oh, and you'll

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hear the background noises of the library as they deliver books.

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It's always exciting to hear the the sounds of our humankind nature.

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So what got you into conservation?

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Just a conscientious human, I try to do as much as I can, but

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I feel like, I've never done enough.

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I feel like I've never contributed that way very much.

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I first heard about the Repair Cafe movement on Facebook and

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I came across an article and I'd never heard of it before.

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And I read it and read what it was about and I thought that's the perfect

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kind of thing for this community.

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Moscow is very much oriented that way.

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Sustainability is a really big deal here.

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We have several groups, local groups.

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We have, uh, the Palouse Environmental Sustainability coalition.

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And then there's also the Palouse Clearwater environmental Institute,

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which is a local educational facility, just making sure that, people are

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conscious about what they can do locally.

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,I just thought that would be a really cool thing to do.

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And I liked the idea.

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I think I reposted it and I said, this is something that would

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be really great here in Moscow.

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And people were like, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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But I had no idea how to implement something like that.

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I'm the kind of person that throws a party and nobody comes so I could never do that.

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And I wouldn't know how to get started anyway.

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And then about a year later, I was at, the Pacific Northwest

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library association conference.

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And there was, a library, I think, from Red Deer, Alberta in Canada.

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And their seminar was, how to do a repair cafe in the library.

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And it occurred to me that the whole time, the answer was right underneath my feet.

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I work in the library and this is the kind of thing that would go very well.

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And it was nice to sit in that seminar because they talked about how they did it.

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What kind of things to expect, you know, basically all of the steps

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that you needed to go through

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to make it work.

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I was very excited about it.

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And I came back and I talked to my director and she

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said, I think this is great.

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So they took it to our Friends of the Library group and they were

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immediately very enthusiastic and on board and they gave me a budget.

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That's how it started.

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And so, I mean, I just kind of dove in, I didn't really know what

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I was doing, but I I'm a person that kind of, I like to make lists.

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So I, I have this, this book out of the moleskikn moleskin notebook

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full of just lists of things.

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And let's try to organize it's quite well.

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It's not just repair cafe.

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It's just how I live my life.

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But, you know, and the best thing was that people were so

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enthusiastic and so open to it, that it made it feel much easier to do.

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I didn't feel like I was hitting any kind of resistance at all.

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It was just, people were very open to the idea.

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So it kind of went from there that

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now that's, that is exciting.

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And we need to get more with this podcast and you telling how you did

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it maybe there are others who will be inspired to set up a repair cafe.

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It's a really exciting thing.

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Yes, it is.

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It's uh, I think it's growing because just from what I've

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seen, and patrons were coming in and saying, this is a great idea.

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I love this idea.

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This is such a great idea.

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This needs to be happening everywhere.

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On the website for Repair Cafe, A global map and you can narrow it down to the U

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S and there are a lot of them in bigger cities, especially in the east and the

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Northeast, not a lot out here in the west.

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So, you know, there's a few in Southern California and I think, uh, a few in

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Seattle, the Seattle area, but I it's something I'd like to see happen.

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What was your first step to get it going aside from

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going to the conference and getting the money, how much money.

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So to run something like this, is it super expensive?

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I mean, you don't have to give an a dollar amount.

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Was it super expensive?

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I don't think so, because I mean, I was given

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a budget and I was all excited.

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I'm like, okay, we need this and this and this.

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And then I realized later that a lot of the things that I purchased

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were not necessarily things

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we maybe needed.

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I was thinking we needed to have all the tools and it's nice to have

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like a toolkit and basic tools.

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But when we had our first one and people showed up, they brought their own tools.

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People bring their own stuff and they were so enthusiastic and we have a, uh,

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volunteer who he, he was doing the, Small appliances and electronics and he's, I

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think he's an engineer and I mean, he had bags of things and just all this

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stuff that he brought in every kind of specialized tool you could think of.

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And he was one of the volunteers.

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Yeah.

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So he had everything he needed.

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And so that's really exciting.

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And everybody said, oh, you don't need to, I can bring that.

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I have a soldering iron, I have this and this or this.

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So that's the good thing about this as the volunteers, most of

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them are already tinkerers and they like to do this kind of thing.

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So they have, they have the basic tools.

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They have the things they need.

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So I guess as far as what it costs to get started, our biggest cost was the venue

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because the library does not have a space big enough to host something like this.

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So I had to pay for a venue and then, you know, little, little things here and there

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we did, I did invest in a lot of different types of like glues and adhesives and

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things like that because I want us to have

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a station where people can go.

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everybody has that one item at home that needs a special glue,

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but they don't want to go out and buy it just for this one thing.

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So they can bring this in and it can be, they can get it glued.

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It's free to the public.

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They can come in and bring a broken item.

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There's there will be someone there, hopefully that has the knowledge

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and the skills to repair it..

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Also, we want the visitors to learn how to repair things themselves

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so that they can start to think about their belongings differently.

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Like, you know, this isn't something I just toss away

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it's it can probably be fixed.

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There are resources out there, and most people we've

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gotten away from that mindset.

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The common mindset now is, and I think we've been driven into this idea that

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you buy something and it's only supposed to last a couple of years, and then

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you just get the newest model, and that benefits the manufacturers,

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but it costs us money and it

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fills up landfills and it causes problems for the environment.

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We're, we're battling that all the time, trying to get people past that

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and to just realize that there's another alternative out there.

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We have the repair cafe, we know what the repair part is.

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So what's the cafe?

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It's literally just a place, a little corner or a table

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that, people can sit and have a cup of coffee or a cup of tea or.

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Uh, a cookie, something like that.

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And there's a reading table.

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That's where the library comes in handy because I can bring books from

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the library on repair and how to repair different types of items.

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They can sit and they can look at books and they can sip their coffee

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and relax maybe while they're waiting to get their item repaired, or maybe

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there's something else they have at home that they want to know how to fix

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so they can just peruse the librarian.

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I have amazing coworkers and one of them she's like, I don't know

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how to fix anything, but I'm really good at rallying the troops.

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So she has recruited everybody else.

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Okay, you need to bake two dozen cookies.

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And so they, they bring them all.

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And so there's enough for everybody to eat and what we had left over

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last time, we sent home with volunteers, so, it's a bonus.

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Oh, that's nice.

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That is a nice bonus.

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So you, you had to get a budget, a venue.

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And then how did you advertise for volunteers?

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That's.

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Interesting because this is a small community and I've lived here forever

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and you just, you know, people and, you know people who know people.

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So I started making phone calls and saying, Hey, I

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know, you know how to do this.

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Do you think you could help me out?

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And people were like, yeah, I can do that.

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My coworkers were amazing.

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There's a someone here today who he's a retired veterinarian and he

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just took a part-time job working at the library because he wanted

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to do something and give back.

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Yeah.

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And it turns out that he is also pretty good at fixing electrical things.

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So he's like, we're gonna help you out.

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Yeah.

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And then the first article came out in the paper and one of my friends

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posted it on Facebook and one of her friends immediately said, I want

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in on this, I love to fix things.

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How can I get involved in this?

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And it's just been like that kind of thing.

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My husband, he can fix most things.

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So he goes kind of from place to place.

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And then one of his coworkers, he works at the university.

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He fixes furniture.

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So he's going to help out with that.

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Oh so people

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might bring their furniture in the back of their truck.

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Yeah, hopefully.

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So, all right.

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So then you gathered volunteers and

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And so I guess what I was trying to say with the

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budget is I don't think you really need that much to get started.

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If you go through repair cafe, because there are other programs out there

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that are similar, I decided to use the, the repair cafe model because you can

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purchase a, a digital kit from them

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, you can download all of their materials that tell you how to

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get started and how to do this.

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And you have access to the logo and all the signs and everything.

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It's branded.

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And I really liked the model.

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I liked the way that they did it.

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And the conference that I attended was also about actual repair cafe,

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but there are other, other models and programs out there that people can do.

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So it's, I mean, it's really it's.

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It just depends.

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So I think if you lived in a community where you, had a place to do this.

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I know some places in California have done them outside during the summer.

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Really.

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It's not going to be much of a cost other than.

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And the fun part is you get

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materials.

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So it becomes social also.

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Yeah.

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And especially in this town, it seems like everybody knows

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everybody else, at least by sight.

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And, uh, that was the fun thing about the, the first repair cafe.

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I don't think there was a person that walked in the

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door that I didn't recognize.

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I mean, it wasn't huge.

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We didn't have a lot of people for the first one.

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It wasn't a.

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I attended, but it was a star.

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It takes time.

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I kind of purposely kept it that way for the first one, because I just,

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it was our first one and I wanted to kind of feel things out and kind of,

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it was sort of a test run, really.

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So kind of work out the glitches and see what to expect..

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The response has been really amazing.

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We've added the furniture.

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Small appliances.

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Small electronics.

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And then we have a clothing and textile, which I think is

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always going to be popular.

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People always have, you know, there are people who don't know

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how to sew on a button, right?

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Zippers and things that need to be patched and hemmed.

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And, and then if people can bring in socks that need to be darned

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nobody darns socks anymore.

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It's like throw them away and buy a new pair.

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A knife and scissors sharpening station.

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Do they have sewing machines?

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They do.

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, one of my volunteers for the clothing and textile station she

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owns a local alteration shop.

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And she was very enthusiastic about doing this.

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She said she does things like this occasionally like at the university,

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you know, clinics, showing people how to fix their own things.

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So she, she came and she has like this amazing kit that's just got every

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kind of thing you would need to like.

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Zippers and all kinds of things that she can replace or snaps and things like that.

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And she has a sewing machine and then we borrowed an extra sewing machine

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from the high school, you know, volunteers show up with things like that.

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It's so wonderful that you have this workforce of volunteers.

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I am kind of bowled over by the support and the

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enthusiasm that I've encountered.

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Just my coworkers alone, but the community and my volunteers have been amazing.

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I can't believe people are willing to give up that much of their free

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time and say, yes, I want to do this.

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And they're really excited about it.

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It is wonderful.

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And it's there and it's their positive imprint.

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Right?

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Exactly.

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And that's their way of, giving back and sharing their knowledge.

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One resource that I would like to tap for volunteers.

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Maybe the retirement community.

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You have that, oh yes.

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People who, a lot of them maybe have those skills, I mean, maybe they weren't

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a repair person before, but they knew how to fix a lamp or a vacuum cleaner

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or whatever, because they, oh yeah.

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That's something they just did.

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And they have that knowledge that they can, they can share it

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and they have the time to do it.

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And probably the enthusiasm.

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Sure.

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You already have this from the wonderful community.

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When you buy the kit repair cafe repair cafe, do you have any networking or

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communication with anybody or you just buy the kit and you're on your own only.

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You get put on their map so people can go to their website.

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Right after we had our first event, there was an article that I wrote

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in the paper for the library column.

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And then when we had our event, we had a reporter show up a

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reporter and a photographer.

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And so there was an article in the paper and I heard from other libraries,

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one in Southern Idaho, one in Texas, and they said, we want to do this.

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How do we get started?

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And so I wrote up this sort of a guideline well, yeah, sort of a.

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Yeah, I don't know.

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I kind of threw it together at the last minute, but I've sent it out several

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times telling people, this is what I did.

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This is how I found my volunteers.

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This is how I got started.

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This might work for you.

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This is what didn't work.

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This is what did work.

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This is what I would do differently.

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And I'm hoping for more of that.

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These were both libraries that I heard from there was a third place

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in Canada that, uh, also contacted me, but I don't think they were a library.

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I want people to know that they don't have to be associated

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with the library to do this.

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Anyone can start one of these.

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This just happened to be the path that I took because it worked for me.

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Most of them, in fact, I think are just, private citizens who

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just say, Hey, we need to do this.

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I think this is a great idea.

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I think this is, this is wonderful.

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I would really like it to be widespread and become more widespread.

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Yeah.

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Right.

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The, the example I like to give.

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And this won't mean anything to anybody who's probably under 40,

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but there used to be the Maytag commercials with their Maytag repairman.

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And he was lonely because, because the, uh, the washing machines and

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dryers were so well-made and they were so reliable that he never got

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called out to help to fix anything.

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They don't show those anymore because I think 40, 50 years ago,

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Manufacturers had a lot of pride in how well-made their items were and

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how this will last you your lifetime.

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And it's not like that anymore.

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It's more to their financial benefit that something breaks down in a couple of years

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and you replace it and buy a new one.

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And, it's frustrating for consumers.

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This has been going on so long that we've just kind of been pushed into this.

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That's just the way it is.

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Oh yeah.

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It's broken.

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I, I have to get a new one.

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One thing that, I keep thinking about is my my mother-in-law's toaster.

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She passed away.

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And, the family gathered to get her house ready to sell and going

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through the belongings and everything.

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She had this ancient toaster, this little Chrome probably weighed a lot.

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Yeah.

Jackie Carter: 00:17:00

Heavy duty.

Jackie Carter: 00:17:01

And it still makes perfect toast after 40 years, I think it was from

Jackie Carter: 00:17:04

the seventies and I've thrown away three toasters in the last 10 years.

Jackie Carter: 00:17:09

And everybody's like, I want the toaster, I want the toaster.

Jackie Carter: 00:17:12

That's a great toaster.

Jackie Carter: 00:17:13

Nothing that we own right now my kids are going to say, I want that

Jackie Carter: 00:17:16

because it's lasted my whole lifetime.

Jackie Carter: 00:17:18

Things aren't made to last.

Jackie Carter: 00:17:20

It would be nice if people could get away from that, that idea,

Jackie Carter: 00:17:25

that things should last longer.

Jackie Carter: 00:17:27

And I think that's part of what the, the right to repair movement is about.

Catherine: 00:17:32

I so much appreciate you taking your time for doing this.

Catherine: 00:17:36

Yeah.

Catherine: 00:17:37

Good for you that you read the little piece on your Facebook and ran after

Catherine: 00:17:42

the repair cafe, because you are the only one in Idaho at this time, and

Catherine: 00:17:46

hopefully others will follow suit.

Catherine: 00:17:48

So Jackie.

Catherine: 00:17:49

Thank you for your positive imprint.

Jackie Carter: 00:17:51

Thank you.

Catherine: 00:17:51

Break your throwaway habit, grab some friends and start

Catherine: 00:17:55

a repair cafe anywhere in the world.

Catherine: 00:17:57

Repair cafe.org.

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And for this podcast, your positive imprint please remember to leave

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positive reviews next week.

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Learn more about the right to repair movement.

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Your positive imprint.com.

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